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		<title>Comment on Christian Religion and Me by John</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/christian-religion-and-me/#comment-206</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/christian-religion-and-me/#comment-206</guid>
		<description>I hope you do stop by for a visit.  If you do, let me give you a couple of tips about getting around our site.

In the “Who” section we outline our mission statement, which is quite simple.  We see Spirit Walk Ministry as a “living library” and our job is to serve as clerks in that library.
You will go into a library with an inquiry or just looking to find information on a certain subject.  It is the job of the clerk to show you where in that library you can find information on that subject.  That is what we do.  We show you where to look and we may even point out a book or books that we have found helpful.  But, that should be where our responsibility ends. It is your responsibility to read the books and interpret them for yourself.  

Speaking as a library clerk, from my experience, where I think your basic area of interest is best addressed would be in our “Earth Mother” and “Awakening” sections.

 In the “Earth Mother” section I deal with the “feminine” element.  Amongst other things, I needed to outline and explain the early tribal goddess cultures AND incorporate that with the Judeo-Christian idea of the feminine as illustrated by Eve in Genesis.  If I had written that all out it would have been so long and boring that nobody would ever read it. 

So, the text is a brief synopsis of the tribal goddess cultures.  As for covering Genesis, at the top of the page you have a picture of “Lilith” and at the bottom is a picture of “Eve”. If you click the “Lilith” picture you will get a video explaining her story.  If you click the “Eve” picture at the bottom you get a video of Mark Twain’s take on Eve.  (Click the Waterhouse painting in the middle and you will get a video about the goddess trinity concept.)

That is the way the sight is arranged.  Pictures and colored headers will lead to videos or other pages that “cross reference” what is on the page.   We do that because the secret to being a preacher is to never forget the value of entertainment.  Churches or theaters, it all comes down to putting bums on seats and a preacher should never forget that they are not just in the “religion business”, they are also in “show business”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you do stop by for a visit.  If you do, let me give you a couple of tips about getting around our site.</p>
<p>In the “Who” section we outline our mission statement, which is quite simple.  We see Spirit Walk Ministry as a “living library” and our job is to serve as clerks in that library.<br />
You will go into a library with an inquiry or just looking to find information on a certain subject.  It is the job of the clerk to show you where in that library you can find information on that subject.  That is what we do.  We show you where to look and we may even point out a book or books that we have found helpful.  But, that should be where our responsibility ends. It is your responsibility to read the books and interpret them for yourself.  </p>
<p>Speaking as a library clerk, from my experience, where I think your basic area of interest is best addressed would be in our “Earth Mother” and “Awakening” sections.</p>
<p> In the “Earth Mother” section I deal with the “feminine” element.  Amongst other things, I needed to outline and explain the early tribal goddess cultures AND incorporate that with the Judeo-Christian idea of the feminine as illustrated by Eve in Genesis.  If I had written that all out it would have been so long and boring that nobody would ever read it. </p>
<p>So, the text is a brief synopsis of the tribal goddess cultures.  As for covering Genesis, at the top of the page you have a picture of “Lilith” and at the bottom is a picture of “Eve”. If you click the “Lilith” picture you will get a video explaining her story.  If you click the “Eve” picture at the bottom you get a video of Mark Twain’s take on Eve.  (Click the Waterhouse painting in the middle and you will get a video about the goddess trinity concept.)</p>
<p>That is the way the sight is arranged.  Pictures and colored headers will lead to videos or other pages that “cross reference” what is on the page.   We do that because the secret to being a preacher is to never forget the value of entertainment.  Churches or theaters, it all comes down to putting bums on seats and a preacher should never forget that they are not just in the “religion business”, they are also in “show business”.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christian Religion and Me by Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/christian-religion-and-me/#comment-205</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:31:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/christian-religion-and-me/#comment-205</guid>
		<description>Hi John,

Great and very valid points.  I had, of course, seen your URL and checked out your website a bit. I do plan to go back and read more.   I am sorry that your other site was attacked.  Unfortunately there are a lot of angry and confused people out there!  

Thank you for your posts.  I have really been enjoying them!

Angela</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>Great and very valid points.  I had, of course, seen your URL and checked out your website a bit. I do plan to go back and read more.   I am sorry that your other site was attacked.  Unfortunately there are a lot of angry and confused people out there!  </p>
<p>Thank you for your posts.  I have really been enjoying them!</p>
<p>Angela</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christian Religion and Me by John</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/christian-religion-and-me/#comment-204</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/christian-religion-and-me/#comment-204</guid>
		<description>I have to tell you that I did have a self-interested reason for coming to your blog.  There has been some confusion with some in the public who think that “spiritwalk.org” is associated with us at “spiritwalkministry.com”.  This is understandable, in that at one point we did have a companion blog site to our site at “spiritwalk.net?”  Unfortunately, we had to close it last fall after it came under “attack”.  (Someone began to send out thousands of spams under the “spiritwalk.net” address.).  So now some search engines appear to be linking our two sites.  Not that it is anyone’s “fault”.  We did have posts about “The Secret” and “Shamballa”, {not Shambhala), on spiritwalk.net and when people look at our pages quickly they think we have the same header.  (Yours is green with a car and ours is green with an apple, but the mind does play tricks, if you aren’t paying attention to detail.)

Anyway, as far as this blog topic is concerned, it does illustrate the point that everyone is looking for “the answer”.  There are those that will tell you that they know “the answer”, but they don’t really tell you “the question”.  That is the real problem.  

At 40 years old, you are not a “spiritual infant”, though a lot of people want you to think that, because it is a lot easier to get you to believe what they want you to believe if they can get you into a “parent to child”, authority figure type  mind set.  (Which is why a priest is “father”, a rabbi is “teacher”, etc, etc.)  

An infant is a blank slate, but by the time you are an adult your black board has been written on so much that it is a jumble.  I doesn’t matter how liberal a religious upbringing you have had, you have still been “programmed”, if not by those around you then by society and when new spiritual ideas come to you it is “automatic” that you try to make those ideas fit in with that programming.  Again, you are accumulating answers and not really looking for a question.  

Whatever you experienced visiting Shambhala , at least unconsciously, you experienced from the perspective of “What would Jesus think of this?”.  Right there, your programming has kicked in.  So, you never fully experienced Shambhala.  Nobody could, because we are all programmed to think we already have “the answer” and we are trying to make the question fit the answer.

All this goes to explain why “spiritwalk.net” was attacked.  Someone was going along happily on their supposed spiritual journey, then they read something we posted and it took them out of the “comfort zone” that their programming had given them.  Their response is then not to try to reprogram or even question their programming, but to silence the messenger on the theory that if you destroy the messenger, you destroy the message and you can then return to your “happy place”.  (Protect the program with a pogrom.)

A common modern analogy is that when you have a problem with your program, you need to reboot.  While this is an idea that has merit it does bring up the fear that we have that like the computer, if we reboot we may lose the work we have already done and we have to do that work again.  It is much easier to think that all you have to do is be “saved” 
I personally know of a woman who converted to Catholicism in her late sixties.  You would think that if you asked her “why?”, somewhere in her response “Jesus” would come up in the conversation.  Her reason for converting was, “I was tired of trying to making decisions about right and wrong and I wanted someone to tell me what to think’.

How do deal with that? 

Eve dealt with it by eating the apple.

But, that's another story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to tell you that I did have a self-interested reason for coming to your blog.  There has been some confusion with some in the public who think that “spiritwalk.org” is associated with us at “spiritwalkministry.com”.  This is understandable, in that at one point we did have a companion blog site to our site at “spiritwalk.net?”  Unfortunately, we had to close it last fall after it came under “attack”.  (Someone began to send out thousands of spams under the “spiritwalk.net” address.).  So now some search engines appear to be linking our two sites.  Not that it is anyone’s “fault”.  We did have posts about “The Secret” and “Shamballa”, {not Shambhala), on spiritwalk.net and when people look at our pages quickly they think we have the same header.  (Yours is green with a car and ours is green with an apple, but the mind does play tricks, if you aren’t paying attention to detail.)</p>
<p>Anyway, as far as this blog topic is concerned, it does illustrate the point that everyone is looking for “the answer”.  There are those that will tell you that they know “the answer”, but they don’t really tell you “the question”.  That is the real problem.  </p>
<p>At 40 years old, you are not a “spiritual infant”, though a lot of people want you to think that, because it is a lot easier to get you to believe what they want you to believe if they can get you into a “parent to child”, authority figure type  mind set.  (Which is why a priest is “father”, a rabbi is “teacher”, etc, etc.)  </p>
<p>An infant is a blank slate, but by the time you are an adult your black board has been written on so much that it is a jumble.  I doesn’t matter how liberal a religious upbringing you have had, you have still been “programmed”, if not by those around you then by society and when new spiritual ideas come to you it is “automatic” that you try to make those ideas fit in with that programming.  Again, you are accumulating answers and not really looking for a question.  </p>
<p>Whatever you experienced visiting Shambhala , at least unconsciously, you experienced from the perspective of “What would Jesus think of this?”.  Right there, your programming has kicked in.  So, you never fully experienced Shambhala.  Nobody could, because we are all programmed to think we already have “the answer” and we are trying to make the question fit the answer.</p>
<p>All this goes to explain why “spiritwalk.net” was attacked.  Someone was going along happily on their supposed spiritual journey, then they read something we posted and it took them out of the “comfort zone” that their programming had given them.  Their response is then not to try to reprogram or even question their programming, but to silence the messenger on the theory that if you destroy the messenger, you destroy the message and you can then return to your “happy place”.  (Protect the program with a pogrom.)</p>
<p>A common modern analogy is that when you have a problem with your program, you need to reboot.  While this is an idea that has merit it does bring up the fear that we have that like the computer, if we reboot we may lose the work we have already done and we have to do that work again.  It is much easier to think that all you have to do is be “saved”<br />
I personally know of a woman who converted to Catholicism in her late sixties.  You would think that if you asked her “why?”, somewhere in her response “Jesus” would come up in the conversation.  Her reason for converting was, “I was tired of trying to making decisions about right and wrong and I wanted someone to tell me what to think’.</p>
<p>How do deal with that? </p>
<p>Eve dealt with it by eating the apple.</p>
<p>But, that&#8217;s another story.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jerry And Esther Hicks Secret Behind &#8216;The Secret&#8217;? by Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/jerry-and-esther-hicks-secret-behind-the-secret/#comment-203</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 17:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/jerry-and-esther-hicks-secret-behind-the-secret/#comment-203</guid>
		<description>Hello John,

Again thank you for your comments.  I appreciate your recommendation of 'Marjorie' and I have in fact added it to my Netflix to watch.  So, you think channelling is a complete scam?  You could be right. I have thought about it over the years and I just don't know, I have seen some pretty convincing channeling.  Esther and Jerry have being doing this a long time.  I wonder how a person can keep up an act like that for so long without a complete breakdown?  Is it just pure greed? I know Jerry was an actor at one point, do they just 'write it off' as acting?  The message that is delivered by 'Abraham' seems in essence 'good'.  So, I guess I feel if no one is getting hurt and people actually feel better after receiving the messages then I don't have a problem with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello John,</p>
<p>Again thank you for your comments.  I appreciate your recommendation of &#8216;Marjorie&#8217; and I have in fact added it to my Netflix to watch.  So, you think channelling is a complete scam?  You could be right. I have thought about it over the years and I just don&#8217;t know, I have seen some pretty convincing channeling.  Esther and Jerry have being doing this a long time.  I wonder how a person can keep up an act like that for so long without a complete breakdown?  Is it just pure greed? I know Jerry was an actor at one point, do they just &#8216;write it off&#8217; as acting?  The message that is delivered by &#8216;Abraham&#8217; seems in essence &#8216;good&#8217;.  So, I guess I feel if no one is getting hurt and people actually feel better after receiving the messages then I don&#8217;t have a problem with it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christian Religion and Me by Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/christian-religion-and-me/#comment-202</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/christian-religion-and-me/#comment-202</guid>
		<description>John,

Thank you for your comments.  I had to go back and read what I wrote since it was several months ago.  It's interesting how you interpreted what I wrote.  I don't feel that Jesus is my 'answer'.  I don't feel that any one person or diety is my 'answer'.  I think of Jesus as an enlightened being and definitely not the only one that has lived on this planet.  I do believe that Jesus is the Son of God, but I believe we are all children of 'God'. I am interested in all religions, but I don't think I will ever commit to one. I guess that I don't feel like God is man or woman.   I'm not exactly sure what God is and I am okay with that.  I am a spiritual infant and I am not sure if I will ever get beyond that in this life time, I'm just enjoying the journey.  Again thank you for your comments.  I have not written on this blog for a while and you helped me get back to it and you brought up some very good points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Thank you for your comments.  I had to go back and read what I wrote since it was several months ago.  It&#8217;s interesting how you interpreted what I wrote.  I don&#8217;t feel that Jesus is my &#8216;answer&#8217;.  I don&#8217;t feel that any one person or diety is my &#8216;answer&#8217;.  I think of Jesus as an enlightened being and definitely not the only one that has lived on this planet.  I do believe that Jesus is the Son of God, but I believe we are all children of &#8216;God&#8217;. I am interested in all religions, but I don&#8217;t think I will ever commit to one. I guess that I don&#8217;t feel like God is man or woman.   I&#8217;m not exactly sure what God is and I am okay with that.  I am a spiritual infant and I am not sure if I will ever get beyond that in this life time, I&#8217;m just enjoying the journey.  Again thank you for your comments.  I have not written on this blog for a while and you helped me get back to it and you brought up some very good points.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jerry And Esther Hicks Secret Behind &#8216;The Secret&#8217;? by John</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/jerry-and-esther-hicks-secret-behind-the-secret/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/jerry-and-esther-hicks-secret-behind-the-secret/#comment-201</guid>
		<description>The supposed "secret" of "The Secret" is that you can manifest what you want in life.  

You are not here to get what you "want", you are here to get what you "need".  You may want to manifest a success, but you may need a failure.  

The Universe know what you "need" and for you to think you can override that and get what you "want" instead is just ego.

As for channeling, who are you most likely to pay attention to, Esther herself or what Esther some ascended master that has supposedly spoken through Esther?

You really "need" to "manifest" a viewing of the movie "Marjoe" to understand how people like the Hicks operate.

(This message was "channeled" to me from the spirit of George Jessel, so that settles that!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The supposed &#8220;secret&#8221; of &#8220;The Secret&#8221; is that you can manifest what you want in life.  </p>
<p>You are not here to get what you &#8220;want&#8221;, you are here to get what you &#8220;need&#8221;.  You may want to manifest a success, but you may need a failure.  </p>
<p>The Universe know what you &#8220;need&#8221; and for you to think you can override that and get what you &#8220;want&#8221; instead is just ego.</p>
<p>As for channeling, who are you most likely to pay attention to, Esther herself or what Esther some ascended master that has supposedly spoken through Esther?</p>
<p>You really &#8220;need&#8221; to &#8220;manifest&#8221; a viewing of the movie &#8220;Marjoe&#8221; to understand how people like the Hicks operate.</p>
<p>(This message was &#8220;channeled&#8221; to me from the spirit of George Jessel, so that settles that!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Christian Religion and Me by John</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/christian-religion-and-me/#comment-200</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/christian-religion-and-me/#comment-200</guid>
		<description>You wrote: "I may have found Jesus, just not the same Jesus she found"

The enigma is always that we start out thinking we know the answer and we just have to find the question that fits the answer.  

If "Jesus' is not really the right answer for you, you are not going to do any more than run around in circles.  You are not a pilgrim seeking their true path to a destination, but just a racer going around in circles on a set track in the hope that if you go around enough times that you will be a "winner".

You know that any scientist or historian who starts out with a preconceived notion of what they will find will be able to find the "answer" they are looking for.  Which is not empirical logic and will more often than not lead to being caught up in your own trap of illusions.

The search for Spirit is no different. If you go into the search looking only to find your predetermined answer then the question you come up with is moot.

Talking about Jesus, "the rock star" or Jesus "the pacifist" is trying to make him fit is rationalization to make him fit as the answer to the questions you are coming up with.  You already said that you believe 
Jesus was the son of God, so you are not going to readily incorporate anything into your search that contradicts that.

You mention that your religious discussions are with your mother, your sister and your friend, all women.  So, why are you looking to a "man" for your answer?  The idea of a supreme male deity has only come about in the last 5,000 years, but for 200,000 years before that the goddess deities were the archetype. But, they are not a part of your search for the right question, are they?  Why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wrote: &#8220;I may have found Jesus, just not the same Jesus she found&#8221;</p>
<p>The enigma is always that we start out thinking we know the answer and we just have to find the question that fits the answer.  </p>
<p>If &#8220;Jesus&#8217; is not really the right answer for you, you are not going to do any more than run around in circles.  You are not a pilgrim seeking their true path to a destination, but just a racer going around in circles on a set track in the hope that if you go around enough times that you will be a &#8220;winner&#8221;.</p>
<p>You know that any scientist or historian who starts out with a preconceived notion of what they will find will be able to find the &#8220;answer&#8221; they are looking for.  Which is not empirical logic and will more often than not lead to being caught up in your own trap of illusions.</p>
<p>The search for Spirit is no different. If you go into the search looking only to find your predetermined answer then the question you come up with is moot.</p>
<p>Talking about Jesus, &#8220;the rock star&#8221; or Jesus &#8220;the pacifist&#8221; is trying to make him fit is rationalization to make him fit as the answer to the questions you are coming up with.  You already said that you believe<br />
Jesus was the son of God, so you are not going to readily incorporate anything into your search that contradicts that.</p>
<p>You mention that your religious discussions are with your mother, your sister and your friend, all women.  So, why are you looking to a &#8220;man&#8221; for your answer?  The idea of a supreme male deity has only come about in the last 5,000 years, but for 200,000 years before that the goddess deities were the archetype. But, they are not a part of your search for the right question, are they?  Why not?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dr. Wayne Dyer by Adam Kahn</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/dr-wayne-dyer/#comment-182</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Kahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/dr-wayne-dyer/#comment-182</guid>
		<description>Check this title out:

The Codex: A Divine Writ (V.1) by Cyrus Rumi

You may find it interesting?

It helped me a lot in many different spiritual ways. I no longer believe in organised religion.

Best wishes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check this title out:</p>
<p>The Codex: A Divine Writ (V.1) by Cyrus Rumi</p>
<p>You may find it interesting?</p>
<p>It helped me a lot in many different spiritual ways. I no longer believe in organised religion.</p>
<p>Best wishes</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jerry And Esther Hicks Secret Behind &#8216;The Secret&#8217;? by Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/jerry-and-esther-hicks-secret-behind-the-secret/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/jerry-and-esther-hicks-secret-behind-the-secret/#comment-138</guid>
		<description>Absolutely, me too. It seems like the more questions that I get answered, the more questions I have. I am sure I will have questions on life and death and everything in between until the day I exit this earth. Thanks for your comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, me too. It seems like the more questions that I get answered, the more questions I have. I am sure I will have questions on life and death and everything in between until the day I exit this earth. Thanks for your comment!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jerry And Esther Hicks Secret Behind &#8216;The Secret&#8217;? by Cindy</title>
		<link>http://www.spiritwalk.org/blog/jerry-and-esther-hicks-secret-behind-the-secret/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found the secret very interestng.  It came into my life last winter too.  I also felt that there was something missing.  I thenrecently found the Hicks audio books.  They answer alot of questions, but I still have more questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found the secret very interestng.  It came into my life last winter too.  I also felt that there was something missing.  I thenrecently found the Hicks audio books.  They answer alot of questions, but I still have more questions.</p>
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